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if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by the summer, and they actually interviewed petraeus and his paramour broadwell for the second time in september or october. wouldn't they have an obligation to tell the president? >> well, listen. the fbi works with the department of justice and eric holder stated he was aware of the investigation. >> why didn't holder tell the president? >> that i can't answer you. i can tell you that bob muller is a very ethical man, a very good man. >> i have to agree with you, pat. >> no doubt in my mind that they advised the attorney general. why the attorney general did not advise the president i think we need to
if your name came up as part of an fbi investigation or adjacent to an fbi vacation, how long would it take tor your name to get up to the president? he said two or three hours. if h the president was out of te country, probably aay day. no more than that. >> pat, obviously you had nothing to do with this. i want everyone to try to understand what happens in the f.b.i. if theet fbi is then investigatg the head of the cia, now, remember,he this started in may. they knew it was petraeus by...
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not for the fbi. so the fbi still has some explaining to do in my mind. >> eliot: why the distinction if there is a legitimate reason or maybe the facts are different between the way general petraeus has offered his resignation and the president expressing support for general allen. is there a reason for that distinction that you can discern? >> absolutely. first off general allen's behavior flirting -- many things are against the military code of justice but flirting isn't. that being said, i can absolutely understand the secretary's actions where general allen is concerned at this point. the real question -- what's happening is general allen was up, as you said, to take over as nato's supreme allied commander. that's a senate-confirmed position. any time that there is an investigation, regardless of whether it has any merit or not that investigation is always concluded before you put somebody in front of the senate committee for them to go ahead and confirm or not confirm the person. so in this case
not for the fbi. so the fbi still has some explaining to do in my mind. >> eliot: why the distinction if there is a legitimate reason or maybe the facts are different between the way general petraeus has offered his resignation and the president expressing support for general allen. is there a reason for that distinction that you can discern? >> absolutely. first off general allen's behavior flirting -- many things are against the military code of justice but flirting isn't. that...
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and upon receiving broadwell's e-mails, kelley contacted the fbi which began investigating. now, jill kelley also has hired crisis communications expert judy smith. she has worked with monica lewinsky with kobe bryant and with former senator larry craig. and that all has a lot of folks scratching their heads. why would a woman who was the target of a nasty e-mail or two need a reputation fixer? well, it turns out that while investigating petraeus, the fbi uncovered 20,000 to 30,000 potentially inappropriate pages of documents mostly e-mails that kelley exchanged with general john allen. and who is general john allen? he is the top u.s. commander in afghanistan and he is the man who's nominated to be the supreme leader of nato. as you can imagine that, nomination was put on hold in light of all of these allegations. for the record, general allen denies any inappropriate relationship with kelley and these e-mails are described as flirtatious. so reaction to this unfolding and unbelievable drama is coming in from all sides a senior official close to general allen said of jill k
and upon receiving broadwell's e-mails, kelley contacted the fbi which began investigating. now, jill kelley also has hired crisis communications expert judy smith. she has worked with monica lewinsky with kobe bryant and with former senator larry craig. and that all has a lot of folks scratching their heads. why would a woman who was the target of a nasty e-mail or two need a reputation fixer? well, it turns out that while investigating petraeus, the fbi uncovered 20,000 to 30,000 potentially...
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the fbi and c.i.a. say they will brief members of the house and senate intelligence committees laying out how they handled the case and standing by their claim that politics were not involved in their decision to keep lawmakers in the dark. at least four people are now caught up in the investigation. along with petraeus and paula broadwell, there is jill kelley and top afghanistan commander john allen. the pentagon is now investigating general allen for allegedly sending thousands of inappropriate e-mails to kelley but allen is saying he did nothing wrong and the president and the army are standing by him. >> the president thinks very highly of general allen and his service to his country. as well as the job he has done in afghanistan. >> i believe john allen until somebody proves otherwise i believe that he did nothing inappropriate. >> that was white house spokesman jay carney and former army vice chief of staff peter tee ellie. jill kelley also received threatening letters from paula broadwell. now a
the fbi and c.i.a. say they will brief members of the house and senate intelligence committees laying out how they handled the case and standing by their claim that politics were not involved in their decision to keep lawmakers in the dark. at least four people are now caught up in the investigation. along with petraeus and paula broadwell, there is jill kelley and top afghanistan commander john allen. the pentagon is now investigating general allen for allegedly sending thousands of...
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the fbi learned that the e-mails were coming from broadwell, and they interviewed paula broadwell and general petraeus, and they admitted that they were having an affair with each other. they said that the affair went on after he left the military. if it went on during military duty he could be prosecuted in military courts. they also looked at whether broadwell leaked confidential information. she gave a speech in october and its getting particular attention because she suggested that the attacks on the libyan consulate were retaliation for the united states taking libyans hostage. >> i don't know if you a lot of you heard this, but the c.i.a. had taken a couple of libyan militia members prisoner, and they believe that the attack on the consulate was because of that. he's not been able to communicate with the press. he has known all of this. >> jennifer: hmm. so the c.i.a. called those statements uninformed and basils but itbaseless. she said she later heard that stuff on fox news but fox news never reported it. so then tonight a local north carolina news station reported several fbi
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>>guest: the fbi works for the justice department and the attorney general. their chain of command would be to take it to the attorney -- the hoover years stopped it. that is what is upsetting in the hoover years with one intelligence agency investigating another and not telling anyone else. >>neil: what do we make leaving aside the draw difficult -- the tawdry details, what do you make of the agency investigating this other agency? >>guest: they should have taken it up the chain of command and saying we don't want to be have thing this. we know that the president didn't know, and the format that key members of congress were not informs so, that is the problem, why did it just stop withholder. and the political angle was it withheld to use it as leverage over general petraeus after september 11th? did general petraeus know he was being investigated? >>neil: how would that affect the october trip? >>guest: who is the guy who knows the most about terrorism and what happened in benghazi, probably david petraeus, the chief al qaeda warrior and fighter for iraq, a
>>guest: the fbi works for the justice department and the attorney general. their chain of command would be to take it to the attorney -- the hoover years stopped it. that is what is upsetting in the hoover years with one intelligence agency investigating another and not telling anyone else. >>neil: what do we make leaving aside the draw difficult -- the tawdry details, what do you make of the agency investigating this other agency? >>guest: they should have taken it up the...
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she was the one who alerted the fbi, saying the emails she was receiving were harassing emails by paula broadwell, the lady who wrote the biography on general petraeus. he goes on to say he does not want to suggest any overreaction and no one should leap to any conclusions until they have continued this investigation and completed it. he says that for now, the nomination will be on hold until they can determine exactly what the facts are. so we will lett leave it there and happened it back to greta. when we find out more information, we will bring that back live. we will be back at 2:40 with another news break. >> treat it with seriousness. they have combined petitions in the past. so it's likely they wie response. >> greta: for all 30 states? >> right. >> greta: and 30 states don't have the threshold? >> the three last time, louisiana and florida have hit the threshold. there was another petition that was started, liberals started a petition asking obama to sign an executive order that anybody that signs those other petitions should get exiled from the country. >> greta: a little fun w
she was the one who alerted the fbi, saying the emails she was receiving were harassing emails by paula broadwell, the lady who wrote the biography on general petraeus. he goes on to say he does not want to suggest any overreaction and no one should leap to any conclusions until they have continued this investigation and completed it. he says that for now, the nomination will be on hold until they can determine exactly what the facts are. so we will lett leave it there and happened it back to...
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back to the fbi. the way this whole thing got started is this jill kelly in tampa who is getting these e-mails, she doesn't know whom from, you better stay away from my boyfriend she has a friend in the fbi. getting the ugly e-mails. he starts an fbi investigation. jesus. this is not what the fbi -- in my opinion ought to be doing. they have more important things to do. this goes back to the j. edgar hoover days, that's all they were doing were investigating sex lives of prominent people. so he starts this investigation. it goes on. they discover e-mails are coming from paula broadwell. they discover she's having an affair with petraeus. he admits it. she admits it. then an fbi agent goes to a republican member of congress, not to the white house. not to the head of the senate intelligence committee or the house intelligence committee. to a republican member of congress. a guy from washington, forget his name. and then he says oh, you better go to the house leadership. so then the guy goes to eric can
back to the fbi. the way this whole thing got started is this jill kelly in tampa who is getting these e-mails, she doesn't know whom from, you better stay away from my boyfriend she has a friend in the fbi. getting the ugly e-mails. he starts an fbi investigation. jesus. this is not what the fbi -- in my opinion ought to be doing. they have more important things to do. this goes back to the j. edgar hoover days, that's all they were doing were investigating sex lives of prominent people. so he...
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reporting of the "wall street journal" he went to a republican lawmaker saying he was concerned the fbi was going do sweep it under the rug. a reporter from the the "wall street journal," parent company of this network. joins us from the newsroom from new york. thank you. you are upset, correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding is she is upset about harassing e-mails so she goes to the shirtless guy and says help me with this. >>guest: the shirtless photos, the f.b.i. supervisionors are not aware of that. >>shepard: that is how she knew. >>guest: they were friends. it is still unclear exactly what sort of friends they were, but she goes to him, and he essentially refers to the whole issue to the cyber crimes investigation people and they start their own investigation and they uncover this affair between general petraeus and miss broadwell. >>shepard: what they don't uncover is any criminal wrongdoing and as you move along it is like dominoes a new one has to fall and each time there are questions about, can you do that, government? >>guest: right. one of odd pieces of the case, each tim
reporting of the "wall street journal" he went to a republican lawmaker saying he was concerned the fbi was going do sweep it under the rug. a reporter from the the "wall street journal," parent company of this network. joins us from the newsroom from new york. thank you. you are upset, correct me if i'm wrong, my understanding is she is upset about harassing e-mails so she goes to the shirtless guy and says help me with this. >>guest: the shirtless photos, the f.b.i....
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is this really what the fbi -- what we want the fbi doing? don't they have more important things they ought to be doing? than people's sex lives? come on. number one. i don't know why the fbi's involved. number two, i don't know why petraeus felt that he had to resign. he wasn't forced out. he offered ois his ignore -- he offered his resignation. as a country we put sex and human frailty up and put too much importance on it. there's no reason, i believe for david petraeus to have to resign. david vitter is still in the united states senate. newt gingrich ran for president. he's a serial adulter. i'm not saying it's right. i'm saying this one affair and petraeus, we could not accept petraeus as the c.i.a. director? was he a good general? yeah, he was a great general. did he do a good job in iraq? he did a great job at iraq. was was he doing a good job at the c.i.a.? yes. end of story. we place too much importance on this. it just seems to me as americans we were still living in the victorian age and that's why petraeus felt that he had to resi
is this really what the fbi -- what we want the fbi doing? don't they have more important things they ought to be doing? than people's sex lives? come on. number one. i don't know why the fbi's involved. number two, i don't know why petraeus felt that he had to resign. he wasn't forced out. he offered ois his ignore -- he offered his resignation. as a country we put sex and human frailty up and put too much importance on it. there's no reason, i believe for david petraeus to have to resign....
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that's why the fbi investigated it and had to investigate it. i understand that. but just divorcing it from politics or anything else, to have it affect somebody's career career. >> in puritanism, as you suggest. but when you add in other factors and variables it's a shame that once again a great man is brought down by this. >> all of this broke today. who knew this and when? we keep talking about if he had run for president did he know this was on the surface? there was an e-mail investigation. maybe he already knew this could ruin a presidential nomination if this comes out. look at john edward. >> cenk: i want people to understand that there are reporters speculating that general petraeus might have given some of the information to the white house that might have been misleading about benghazi. that's why there might be speculation about his testimony at benghazi question about when did we know about the' fair and if they're related. >> there is a story within the story. jayar is right. the managing of this release this information as you say was probably antic
that's why the fbi investigated it and had to investigate it. i understand that. but just divorcing it from politics or anything else, to have it affect somebody's career career. >> in puritanism, as you suggest. but when you add in other factors and variables it's a shame that once again a great man is brought down by this. >> all of this broke today. who knew this and when? we keep talking about if he had run for president did he know this was on the surface? there was an e-mail...
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and the fbi started the investigation and now we have generals floating out there. she is accused of exchanging, and she knew this at the time, tens of thousands of pages of e-mails, think of that, not e-mails but pages of e-mails, with general allen over two or let years, the top commander in afghanistan, leading the longest war in the history of the country, an official said the mails they shared amounted to "phone sex over e-mail." pentagon officials say general allen insists he has done nothing wrong. jill kelley, her husband, and her twin sister, hosted the awesome parties for top military officials and that is how she get to know the yens and all them including both general petraeus and general allen, and while the kelleys are living this licksure russ -- this luxury life, their home has been in foreclosure since 2010 and they were in big financial trouble. jonathan hunt is here. what else do we know about jill kelley? >> she is 37. her family is originally from lebanon and moved to the united states in the 1970's and she grew up in philadelphia and moved to t
and the fbi started the investigation and now we have generals floating out there. she is accused of exchanging, and she knew this at the time, tens of thousands of pages of e-mails, think of that, not e-mails but pages of e-mails, with general allen over two or let years, the top commander in afghanistan, leading the longest war in the history of the country, an official said the mails they shared amounted to "phone sex over e-mail." pentagon officials say general allen insists he...
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. >> the fbi agent? >> yes, the fbi agent in tampa. >> wow. >> had been sending jill--okay. he gets taken off the case. >> right. >> he gets annoyed and thinks they're going oh to sweep it under the rug. so he contacts a member of congress who brings it up the chain within congress. >> do we know which member of congress. >> yes, i have it. i need to find it. >> talk amongst yourself. [ jeopardy music ] >> he takes it to a member of congress who takes it up the food chain to eric cantor, who then takes it to the fbi in d.c. that's how they begin to investigate in d.c. >> stephanie: so the white house cover up. >> what? >> that's the crazy part. he knew earlier that on election day, but now it's the president asphalt--david ryker. >> stephanie: another republican part of the cover up. this gets curiouser and curiouser. >> he was concerned that the fbi officials would sweep the matter under the rug. so it was related to toll top congressional officials and we know that eric cantor was involved. now as they have started to investigate in broadwell-kelley e-mail. they discovered
. >> the fbi agent? >> yes, the fbi agent in tampa. >> wow. >> had been sending jill--okay. he gets taken off the case. >> right. >> he gets annoyed and thinks they're going oh to sweep it under the rug. so he contacts a member of congress who brings it up the chain within congress. >> do we know which member of congress. >> yes, i have it. i need to find it. >> talk amongst yourself. [ jeopardy music ] >> he takes it to a member of...
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the fbi has asked for all documents back. when the agents ascended on her home it was a pre-arranged meeting. and it was complicated by the fact that she was authorized to see the documents because she was an intelligence officer in the reserves. >> cenk: now we turn to jill kelley, who is accused of being overly flirtatious that's is a crime these days? we do investigation on this? >> kelley lives near mcneil air force base where friends say she ingratiated herself with the brass through parties and favors. court documents re revealed that jill kelley and her husband have been sued at least nine times and face foreclosure on her home. >> cenk: man, rich people are fascinating. throw big parties all the generals come. charge it to someone and they sue you later. why are we in her life? is it the sex drama, all right let's have it, hoss. we have more details on it and let's bring in kim delaney. ken, thanks for joining us. first, do you have an update on the shirtless shirtless fbi agent--this is absurd--that started the inves
the fbi has asked for all documents back. when the agents ascended on her home it was a pre-arranged meeting. and it was complicated by the fact that she was authorized to see the documents because she was an intelligence officer in the reserves. >> cenk: now we turn to jill kelley, who is accused of being overly flirtatious that's is a crime these days? we do investigation on this? >> kelley lives near mcneil air force base where friends say she ingratiated herself with the brass...
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the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and reporting. we've been unable to corroborate this in the time scale we've had tonight but you do have very good fbi sources. i want to turn to bob baer. he's the cnn contributor. does this make sense to you that this could be the sequence of events? >> oh, absolutely, but i tend to attribute more significance to the fbi of getting into petraeus' e-mails. the fbi, as a matter of course, doesn't look at affairs, doesn't read military officers' e-mails or cia officers. they have to be alerted to some sort of crime or counterintelligence problem. i can only speculate what t
the fbi thought that he would be immediately asked to resign. that's what would normally happen with a government employee, but, in fact, the white house said no, we want to wait until after the election. so agents were furious. i've been given insight to the actual agents that were doing the case, and they think it's inexcusable that this was allowed to continue for months without firing him. >> let me just jump in there, ronald. obviously, this is all your independent claims and...
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the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i think general petraeus has acted honorably in resigning. i think he is going to do fine. he is going to get a book contract. he apparently wants to be president of princeton. he will have a year of probably giving speeches, making a lot of money. i don't feel sorry for him. >> if he wrote a book with the lady who wrote about him, paula broadwell, all in the education of david petraeus. he cooperated practically on the entire book. now he's going to write another book? >> he can write one about himself. he's not the author of this. thi
the fbi apparently acted by the book. you don't tip off the white house when you're engaging in a potentially criminal investigation. the agent in florida who then worried that the investigation was being stalled and went to a republican congressman who went to eric cantor, he has an illustrious record. he helped bring down the millennium plot. you can't blame him, either, for his apparent concern that this was not being studied appear prop it i can't tellly. so then the story got out, and i...
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she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell. she has been psycher stalked and she could actually go out and go after paula for doing that. >> you are sleeping with the head of the cia and you can write an autobigrammy . and you have no credentials to do and we'll award you money. >> some people think the terrorist attack caused by a youtube video. and people may. >> gloria allred will call jim kelley. >> her name will not be smoking. >> aren't you concerned about the fact that men can be so weak that they can're - can be manipulated. if you could read my mind 23 hours a day. we are sick human beings and we are visually stimulated and sexually predatorial. nand yes, we
she went to the fbi and doesn't realize that the fbi would do a total investigation in on her as well call petraeus. >> she is getting e-mails. and wouldn't she go to petraeus, you wouldn't believe this e-mail. i am getting them. >> if she had shame. >> but she thought she was so connected no one could bring her down. >> that is it a double entrendry. >> there is it one lawsuit and you know that a civil one could come between jill kelley and suing paula broadwell....
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to the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the moffett cancer center who was in the military community. she was on the social roster, she was on the socom that's special operations command social roster. she jumped with the parajumpers in a tan done jump. she attended the admiral's parties and affairs and so on. that's who she is in that context. >> rose: so she went to the cyber whatever the name was and then they began to look at her e-mails and who she received e-mails from and from that they found e-mails having to do with general john allen. >> right one of the ways you do a case, all right let's see who is sending the har
to the fbi she communicates with a friend who she meets at a fbi commune a event. hey do you remember me, we were in touch can you look at somebody to look at this. he brings her to the cyber squd and they say where is this going to lead not knowing it was going of going to lead to the general's and so on. that's who jill kelly in the context of this case. who she is in the larger world is a tampa socialite married to a prominent although much lower profile and quiet radiologist from the...
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the fbi traced the e-mail and others to paula broadwell. i just even love the way these stories are written. petraeus' biographer which agents would soon learn was petraeus' lover. lover. so all right. [ world news music ] david petraeus has agreed to testify during a closed door session of congress to answer questions about benghazi, but he would also likely be asked about these new revelations that his lova-lova. >> his thing. >> his boo. >> stephanie: i hope someone uses those terms in the congressional hearing. now general, your thang. >> your boo. >> stephanie: paula, is accused of storing classified material at her home like a squirrel with nuts storing it for the winter. i really don't know. my bff is here to hang over the back fence. grab your coffee. >> gossip. >> stephanie: oh, my god. we've been reviewing everything we know. my personal favorite with the l.a. times reporting this morning that jill kelley with her fancy card she made at at kinko's that says she's an honorary something or other. >> i heard yesterday there were mult
the fbi traced the e-mail and others to paula broadwell. i just even love the way these stories are written. petraeus' biographer which agents would soon learn was petraeus' lover. lover. so all right. [ world news music ] david petraeus has agreed to testify during a closed door session of congress to answer questions about benghazi, but he would also likely be asked about these new revelations that his lova-lova. >> his thing. >> his boo. >> stephanie: i hope someone uses...
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when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of reporters who are capable, but it's a very strange and completely surprising. >> it is and i'll leave it with this, that paula broadwell just published this week, general david petraeus' rules for living. we all make mistake, learn from them, drive on and avoid making them again. next, we have more on the resignation. peter king, the chair of the homeland security committee with how it could put the u.s. at risk. plus, after spending millions to elect mitt romney, has karl rove lost his touch? a look at all the money spent and wasted this election and it has b
when you have those two things, that's the fbi's real role. in terms of the cia, they wouldn't have taken an investigatory look. i think they're going to have to deal with the shock of it all. >> paula introduced herself to david petraeus. she was a paratrooper, attractive, in great shape. petraeus has always be attracted to intellectual officers. she was writing a book. they used to in afghanistan, they would go on five-mile jogs together, but he goes out on file mile jogs with a lot of...